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Title: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 08, 2009, 11:05:56 PM

We are off to the local Hardy Plant Society plant sale tomorrow, not to buy plants, we are selling plants.
We go every year at this time, to shift some of our five hundred plus  plants we have from divisions, cuttings or seed.

But at this time of year, not many have flowers on. We all know that a plant with flowers on will normally sell better than one without.

So next best thing is a picture of the plants. Well thanks to George and his software, most of the plants have pictures linked to them, no need to go searching through a hard disk bulging with photos, but not easy to find, been there done it in recent years.

I normally cut up a sheet of A4 photo paper into four, which will give me sheets of approx 105mm by 145mm a good size for each picture, and easy to set up a custom size of paper for the printer to work with. I cut off the white borders on the finished photo with the exception of the top border which I write the name of plant and height etc. The photos are then laminated and attached to a stick ready for popping into one of the plant pots, the photo ends up above the plant.

Had a quick look in GA049S01 and GA049S05 to see if I could get the size picture I wanted.
Of course being an awkward S-D I couldn't, unless you know different.

Perhaps you could give some thought to different sized photos in those dark nights next winter please.  :-*  ;D

All was not lost though, as all the original plant pictures for IG pro were in one folder on the computer, so easy to find the ones I wanted, I just did the same as previous years.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 08, 2009, 11:51:53 PM
I'm delighted to see you are using that program, Malcolm.
I see Ive set it up to print 1, 2 or 3 per A4 page, but not 4.
Thats very easy to change, so I will do that.
It would be useful for that application as you can add some text to each photo.
You want to write the text (name of plant, height etc in this case) at the top of the image Malcolm?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 09, 2009, 07:46:16 AM

It really doesn't matter if the text is at the top or bottom of the picture George.

The photos are in portrait four to a A4 sheet, that would be a great addition. I would do more for the plant stall here on open days.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 09, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
Will do Malcolm.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 09, 2009, 09:15:36 PM

We took more money this year than last, suprising as there were four plant sales in the area today, and a table top sale in the school next door to the hall we were in, so parking for the buyers was a problem.
Sold nine Brugmansias in about 15 minutes, just got about 35 left.  ;D but they will soon go when we open the garden.
I filled the van and the back of Lyns car with plants, only brought 3 boxes back.

So I reckon the pictures worked for us today

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 09, 2009, 09:33:47 PM
As George says, it's really good to see another aspect of his program being used to great effect.  8)

Malcolm, when you get time it would be nice if you could take a photo of the finished laminated flower image you produced, and post it here.  It could inspire others to try it.  Possibly a bit of info about the laminator machine used too, if it's yours or done by a laminating firm, and even the cost involved (if you don't mind revealing that of course.  ;) ).
It could prove to be very useful.

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 09, 2009, 10:57:43 PM

Laurie

At the moment I am not using GA049S01 to get the pictures onto paper, as it won't allow 4 pictures on A4.

But George  "The very nice man" he is, has said he will modify GA04S01 for us.  8)

The laminator is just a home/office A4 one, not too bad to buy £25 to £50, but the A4 laminating pouches are about 14p to 18p each when bought in a pack of 100. But of course you can laminate 4 pictures from one pouch.

We actually Laminate the A4 National Garden Scheme "Garden Open" signs we put out round the village. We used to use the plastic bag that the NGS supply, which was pretty useless in wet weather, as they misted up inside. This is another of the things we have learn't to do, but at our expense, when opening the garden.
I really must get round to writing a feature on opening our garden and what it entails.

This morning while in the local supermarket  not only did I have a list of what we had to get for ourselves, but also a list of the ingredients we use for making the different cakes for the open days, the list was used for noting down the prices and packed weight etc, so I could update the prices in our excel sheet, which woks out what it costs to make each cake, and also prints a list of ingredients and quantity we will need to make those different cakes.

I will certainly take a picture of the laminated flower image and text after George has obliged with the update.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 09, 2009, 11:07:51 PM
That sounds good Malcolm, we'll look forward to seeing your design once George gets the time to do the update.  :D

Explaining the preparations involved in getting ready to open your garden for visitors is a good idea.  I have the feeling that it's not as easy as it sounds, so we'll also look forward to knowing what it actually entails.  A lot of hard work no doubt, but very rewarding when you talk to visitors about your lovely planting schemes, and see all their happy faces.

This could also inspire other members to 'have a go.'  You never know.  ;)

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 10, 2009, 12:20:52 AM
Pressure, pressure, pressure. I thought it would never start  ;D
Yip, I'll better oblige real quick. Have to keep this enthusiasm rollin'

Just so you are aware, the new edition of Bank Genie is my current project.
Bank Genie has a new interface, which will be applied to all my software items in the next respective upgrades.
Ive spent many hours researching and learning new programming techniques to overcome the technical problems involved.
Its a major twist to how the software works.

I'm really pleased with the "new look" and "new feel" and I'm very pleased to say, Barry likes it.
I'll set it up as a download so you folk can have a look.

But, I'll break off for this program update for you guys! It will be fun.

By the way, I'm taking it a little easier this past few months. I take a break to watch the Champions league football  :)
Its been a great season.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 10, 2009, 07:31:15 AM
Certainly no pressure George - but you've risen to the challenge magnificently.  :D

Once that little 'tweak' for the flower software has been done, we'll all be behind you to ensure you go full throttle at Bank Genie.

I know the Bank Genie users on the Forum will want to fully road-test its progress and give you good feedback, but hopefully other members will try to help out as much as they can.

I have to confess that my Forum time was lessened slightly just recently over the 17-day TV coverage of the Snooker World Championship.  ::)  Fortunately Kathy doesn't mind as she likes to watch it too.

I'm not a football fan so don't bother to follow any of that.

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 10, 2009, 10:17:08 PM
The snooker is addictive, Laurie. Once you start watching it you are hooked.

I'll have a look at GA049 tomorrow. It should be easy enough.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 12:31:08 AM
Ive created two new templates which both print 4 photos on an A4 page
One teplate is designed for Portrait photos
The second for Landscape type photos

2 downloads required:

(1)
GA049
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA049-dl-exe
This should indicate Version 5 after installation

Reminder (before starting the next download):
Start GA200. Item 6 shows you the path to the Core data folder on your computer.

(2)
The new templates.
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/picpages-dl.exe
By default, this download installs 3 files in this folder:
c:\documents and settings\<user name>\local settings\temp\picpages
Open the folder and movbe the 3 files to the Core data folder (see above)

Alternatively (easier)
During installation, look for the option to Change the installation folder.
Change it to the Core data folder.

Have fun!
(Let me know how it goes,please)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 07:53:54 AM

Thank you George

Will take the downloads, and report back later, just a couple of paid jobs to go to this morning.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 01:47:40 PM

I have been able to try GA049S01 out with the new 4 to an A4 page in portrait, after taking the two updates George.

The pictures come out fine, no problem, just a small anomaly in the fact that the top two pictures titles are on the white border below the pictures, no problem with that.
And the bottom two pictures the titles are on the bottom of the photo, the print for these is on a white background.

Now this could be a printer specific problem ? There is room for the titles below the bottom pictures.

This is going to be very usefull to me, thank you George

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 02:04:37 PM
I tinkered with that until well after midnight last night. For some reason, the text wouldn't print when I had the text below the 2 bottom images, even though, as you say, there appeared to plenty of white space to take the text.
So I threw in the towel and moved them up, so I could get the update released.

I will experiment again when I get a minute. I may have to reduce the size of the photos, but that will be a very last resort.

Try the Portrait template. In that, the text appears on all four images. I had to do that due to my attempt to print the largest possible size.
It didn't spoil any of my photos. What do you think?

Incidentally, the program works if you omit the text.

I'm really pleased you are finding this useful.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 02:06:16 PM
Just a couple of questions please.

When you click on "help me with text" in GA49S02, then click on "plant data" where is this data picked up from. Those three buttons could be very helpfull in GA049S07

The thumbnail in GA100S60, what folder is the programme getting this thumbnail from.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
The program generates the thumbnail, Malcolm. Its saved to a temporary file on disc then deleted.
I'll have a look a GA049S07 now.

RE:
Quote
When you click on "help me with text" in GA49S02, then click on "plant data" where is this data picked up from

In the case of a Plant Photo:
1) Photo Title: This comes from the information you enter when you link a photo to a plant in GA030 etc.
2) Photo Desc: as (1) above. Theres a big field to allow you to type as much info as you like about the photo
This is then re-usable in this Photo printing program (and in other features)
3) Plant Data. This comes from the Plant Data text you enter when you add or edit a plant in screen GA100S36
Again, its reusable here in GA049 and elsewhere.

In the case of a Garden Photo:
1) as (1) above
2) as (2) above
3) Garden Area Desc
This comes from the text you entered when you added the Garden Area to your garden.
e.g. In GA027 click the Gardens tab
Click the WW button and get into screen GA100S10
Double click on a garden area (or add a new one) and get into GA100S12
Type some text.
That is then used by GA049
Again, its reusable elsewhere, in particular when you print a report of your garden (GA016), or do a Garden Tour document GA015. Have you tried that report yet?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 02:15:26 PM
It was in portrait that I tried the programme George,
If were to be easier then no probs with making the pictures slightly smaller.
I did notice you were burning that midnight oil again last night. ;D

The best use for this part of the program would be for the labels on sticks in a pot, with the labels above our sales plants. The text would have name, height and price on them, great stuff.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 02:17:58 PM
There is only room for one line of text in the template I provided (I think)
Is it big enough to take all that info?

Is the font name and font size OK?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 02:19:07 PM
Sorry about the cross posting

Quote
That data is picked up from the information you have entered in other features in the system

Can you say where /what those "other features" are/where.please.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 02:20:59 PM

One line is fine, perhaps the size of font could be a bit bigger, at the cost of size of picture is ok.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 02:34:38 PM
Ive updated the posting Malcolm with more information. Sorry about being vague. I had to do a look up to remind myself.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 13, 2009, 03:16:49 PM
I've got a problem with the layout of my photos in the test I have done.


(http://www.pixiemouse.com/igforum_temp/igpro-print-photo.jpg)

The plant names should be underneath each photo, but for some reason there's a large gap.

I've probably done something wrong along the way, so I await a chastisement.  ;)

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 03:24:06 PM
and Ive editied it again to explain about Garden Area photos.

I found a bug.
When you click the option A photo linked to a garden area
then click Get a Garden Area you get to GA049S07
In that screen, do this workaround to bypass the bug:
Use the pop-up to Select ANOTHER garden are, even if the default one shown is correct.
Then select the Garden Area you want.
You should then get through to the screen to select a Garden Photo.

Will fix that tonight.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 03:37:22 PM
Laurie
Nice presentation!
Youve used the Portrait template, but you appear to be printing landscape images.
Try using the Landscape template for those images
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 03:51:03 PM
Another couple of tips:

1)
The templates are designed for standard rectangular aspect ratios 3:4
If photos are not standard e.g. square, then they wont fill the allocated regions allocated for the printed image.
If they are 3:4 then they will be perfect.

2) The program is designed to maintain proportions.
Thus it wont stretch the photo out of its normal aspect ratio

3) Small images will be enlarged to fit
Large images will be squeezed into the region

4) The text always appears in the same location, irrespective of photo size
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 13, 2009, 03:58:41 PM
Thanks George.

I've re-done the test using Landscape mode and the same photos.  The layout works this time.

I don't know how that happened because I ensured the photos were the correct width as the program suggests, and I calculated the combined width of the 2 photos next to each other ensuring they didn't exceed the width of A4 paper.  ???

I assume that the re-sizing of the photos has to be done manually to the 3:4 ratio, but you're ending up with another set of photos for printing purposes.  At this point I'm confused by you saying the program then maintains proportions, but we still have to re-size them first.  ???

I was very careful though in my re-sizing, so I don't know how it went wrong.  On the screen shot I posted the top two photos look like landscape ones, but they are the same dimensions wide as the two below them, that appear more square.

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 04:11:35 PM
More tips!

1)
Hold the front page!! You dont have to resize the photos.
The program can handle any size of photo.
Its just that visually, the printed output looks best when you use 3:4 aspect ratio photos (which is standard)

Its the same aspect ratio as a computer screen.
e.g. 800 wide x 600 high (4 times 200 and 3 times 200 respectively)
In the case of a photo with those dimensions, that would be a portrait.

2) You dont need to do any calculations!!
Theres no such complexities involved.
Just use whichever template gives the best result for your photos.

3) To reiterate, you dont have to do anything at all with your image originals.
Do a print preview easch time. That will let you see if youve used the correct template for the images youve selected

Does that help?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 13, 2009, 04:24:28 PM
That helps immensely George.

I'd taken your original instructions for the photo sizes required too literally, and I was doing just that - resizing them. Duh.  :-[

Anyway, I've got over that now.  :D  I've re-done the test using my original larger sized photos and they display perfectly.

Thanks for clarifying that George.

You've achieved yet another masterpiece.  :)

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 04:31:32 PM
I'm just delighted that that program has been "discovered"  :)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 07:20:03 PM

Thanks for the clarifications George, I thought I might have been asking "sensitive" questions about the program,  ;D as I was getting what you said where vague answers.  ;D

I have  had a good rummage with GA049S01 now, and I am quite happy with the text size as it is.

One thing that appears to me not to work properly is in GA049S07
clicking on "Help me with text"
click on "photo title"
click on " insert at start"
then click on "plant data"
then click on "insert at end"

The two lots of inserted text are shown above each other in the "my text" box
click the "use this " box
we are taken to GA049S02 and the text is shown above each other still, in the "compose text for this photo" box

click in the "save" box

Do a print preview and the second line of text is not shown. I expected both lines of text to be on one line under the picture.

Am I doing something wrong?  ::)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 13, 2009, 08:07:16 PM
aaargh i think i am having a vista moment again, sorry  :'( i have downloaded the updates
GA049S01 it is showing version 5
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/label2.jpg)

click on Start New

GAO49S05 i am only seeing these picture options
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/label1.jpg)

as you can see i have no option for 4 pictures on a page,
close down GAO49S05 by clicking on back and i come to GA049S02 as you can see i have no option for 4 pics on a page
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/label3.jpg)

Any thoughts i downloaded first update the normal way and the second update i saved directly to C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\   
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 08:12:28 PM
The second download hasnt done the job.

RE:
Quote
i saved directly to C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\     
If your user profile is HOME, then that is correct, Phil.
But, make sure by starting GA200 and looking at the path in Item 6 for the Core data.

Best to do that download again.
You should, get a message to say, Do you wish to overwrite these files. Answer Yes.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 08:17:17 PM
RE: (Malcolm)
Quote
I expected both lines of text to be on one line under the picture

I dont think the text region is big enough to take 2 lines, so when you enter text, do NOT hit Enter at any stage, even at the end of typing text.
The Enter button forces any data which follows onto a second line.

Thus,type everything you wish to appear in line 1 without hitting Enter button.
Let me know how that goes for you.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 13, 2009, 09:12:01 PM
The second download hasnt done the job.

RE:
Quote
i saved directly to C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\     
If your user profile is HOME, then that is correct, Phil.
But, make sure by starting GA200 and looking at the path in Item 6 for the Core data.

Best to do that download again.
You should, get a message to say, Do you wish to overwrite these files. Answer Yes.

Yes C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\ this is what is says in GA200 Number 6 core data folder, i have looked in C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\ in my pc and i can not see a folder called core data, or have i got the wrong end of the stick in looking for this folder, god i wish theyd bring the horse andcart back again  ;D

i have 3 folders called JPGTEMP, PICS and BACKUP have even done the second download again but to no avail
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 10:09:01 PM
RE:
Quote
have looked in C:\USERS\HOME\APPDATA\LOCAL\IDEASFORGARDENS\IDEAS GENIE PRO 5\ in my pc and i can not see a folder called core data
No you wont. Its not a "physical" folder, more a "notion".
In the Help program GA002, read the Topic No. 73
The notion of the Core Data folder is discussed
Its the location of your core files for IG Pro.

In the good old days, the data was stored in one and the same folder on every users computer.
That was much too easy. The Vista whiz kids decided to make it more difficult.
Thanks to the their creation, it has to go under the User profile, and to make life a little easier for myself, I applied that principle tpo all installations for my software for all operating systems.
Thus, Its different for every user, as each user has a different User name, and the User name is part of the folder path.
Thats why I refer to it as the Core data folder.

I cant understand why its not working for you.
Has anyone else tried this with a Vista computer?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 13, 2009, 10:27:52 PM

Phil wrote

Quote
i have 3 folders called JPGTEMP, PICS and BACKUP have even done the second download again but to no avail

The files from the second download should be

picpages.cdx
picpages.dbf
picpages.fpt

Should't they ?

Malcolm

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 11:31:54 PM
Yes, that is correct.
Thats the data files which hold the templates

The folders JPGTEMP, PICS and BACKUP are not relevant in this discussion.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 11:39:08 PM
RE (Malcolm
Quote
One thing that appears to me not to work properly is in GA049S07
clicking on "Help me with text"
click on "photo title"
click on " insert at start"
then click on "plant data"
then click on "insert at end"

Ive checked, and that seems to work perfectly for me Malcolm.
Please check again and confirm.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 13, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
Ive updated the program to fix that bug I found.
Also changed the functionality of the Next (photo) button in screen GA049S02.
Also added some tool-tip-text. Hover over the buttons and the photo to see the tool-tips.
I did that to let you know that you can click on the image in screen GA049S02 and see the image in a full screen window.

The update:
GA049
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA049-dl-exe
This should indicate Version 6 after installation
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 14, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
sorted  ::) as i say a vista moment  ::), i did exactly the same as i was doing yesterday and it installed first time, i can now print out 4 pics, also updated to v6, many thanks excellent work again george
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 14, 2009, 11:53:43 AM
That is more scary than uncanny.
I'd dearly like to hear from other Vista users when installing those files.
Its a big relief that its now working on Vista for you Phil!




Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 14, 2009, 06:23:51 PM

George

Quote
One thing that appears to me not to work properly is in GA049S07
clicking on "Help me with text"
click on "photo title"
click on " insert at start"
then click on "plant data"
then click on "insert at end"

Did you continue on with the other actions I detailed, and eventually print the page?

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 14, 2009, 07:46:31 PM
That template is suitable fpor one line of text only, Malcolm.
Try this in the Landscape template.
Do the steps in the sequence you described so you have 3 or more lines of text.
Continue right through and click Save and then print preview.
The 2nd and 3rd lines of text will be printed below Photo No1, but in the Photo No 3 image.
Does that happen with you?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 14, 2009, 07:58:08 PM
That is more scary than uncanny.
I'd dearly like to hear from other Vista users when installing those files.
Its a big relief that its now working on Vista for you Phil!






I gave up for the night, went and talked to my goats when i put them to bed, yes i have pampered goats  ;D, started pc this morning and just tried again, and it worked
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 14, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
<tittering> The large company in Seattle who gave the world Vista may be interested in that tip Phil  ;D
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 14, 2009, 08:20:07 PM
the good thing about goats is that they dont answer back just go baaaa in a goaty way  ;D  :D
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 14, 2009, 09:42:21 PM

George wrote

Quote
That template is suitable fpor one line of text only, Malcolm

That was my problem George. Knowing it would only print one line, using the controls "Insert at start" and "insert at end" I assumed wrongly that the text would end up on one line.

Silly me  ;D

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 14, 2009, 09:58:27 PM
Ah, NOW I see Malcolm.
Well, of course, you can edit the text (including the inserted text) and squeeze it up into that one line.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 14, 2009, 11:09:04 PM

Quote
Well, of course, you can edit the text (including the inserted text) and squeeze it up into that one line

Yes that is what I am now doing.

Thanks

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 14, 2009, 11:20:41 PM
In the landscape template, the Text line appears actually on the photo (not in white space) at the bottom.
Are you OK with that?
With that, you get the maximum photo size.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 14, 2009, 11:54:29 PM

Yes that is fine George.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 12:55:19 AM
OK, version 7 is now ready for download.

The update:
GA049
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA049-dl-exe
This should indicate Version 7 after installation

Note that I had to make the labels suit my very old Lexmark Z31 printer.
(I'm replacing the Lexmark in the next month or so.)

It has totally different characteristics that the Laser printer I use in the Belfast office.
Headaches continue!
However, if it suited that old contraption, it should be fine on modern printers as reported by our members in the special thread about non-printable areas.

Let me know how it goes.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 15, 2009, 08:35:39 AM
George

Version 7 works fine for me, and in the 4 picture portrait the text is fine below the picture, in print preview the text does not overlap onto the picture, this is how I like it. Best version yet.  ;D

I shall be making some more sales labels in the coming week, as we are going to another HPS plant sale to offload some more plants, we have too many to store here and at two other locations, some have got to go. :)

Thank you

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 09:37:42 AM
Thats great Malcolm, and I'm really pleased it is going to prove useful.

What type of media to you print on?
For the greenhouse, Ive printed labels on plain paper and laminated, then sliced them with a guillotine. It works well for short term usage. I've a few outdoors and keeping an eye on how durable they are.


Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 15, 2009, 10:21:38 AM

Durabrite ink on Photo paper, then laminate then cut with Photo trimmer.

The cost of the photo paper and ink is easily recovered in the extra sales generated, as seen last weekend when we did a trial of a few labels.
The labels will only be used on open days and plant sales we attend. So no problem with durability.

We decided not to put the price on the label, as some of the plants are smaller than others, and it leaves it more open to changing prices.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 10:36:58 AM
I'd like to request a photo (well, a few photos) to put on my website. Publicity for both our causes  ;)
1) a photo of a label with plant(s)
2) A photo of your stand with plants and labels visible
3) A photo of you and Lyn at the stand.
More than one if you want to push the boat out!

Another question.
How do you support the labels?
One photo per individual pot, or does one photo do a batch of plants on a display area?

RE:
Quote
Durabrite ink on Photo paper,
Yer gonna be Toby's (Bossgard) friend for life!
Thats the ink hes been telling us all about on the Labels topic.


Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 15, 2009, 11:21:47 AM
Have just done a trial print out after downloading v7 the only problem i have is that the text of one botom picture is outside of the printing section

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/label4.jpg)

the margin at the bottom of the page is way bigger than the top and side margins useing a ruler
T 5mm
B 15mm
L 5mm
R 5mm

I know my pics are not brilliant in size wise i intend to try to get all pics to a standard size (what would be a good size to use) which will fill a page nicely with 4 pics and the plant name

any ideas
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 15, 2009, 12:21:33 PM

George

Will do re the pictures, I had intended to do that anyway  (honest I did)  :)
The plant stall is over the Bank holiday weekend.

At the moment the labels are attached to thin green canes about 18 inches tall, and until I can think of a better way of attaching to the stick, I am using Duct tape on the back of the label.

We are using one label to a batch of the same plant, normally have say 3 of a particular plant with one label, the stick is in one of the pots, so the label is held above the plant. Spare plants are under the bench and come up as and when a plant is sold. We make sure the buyer doesn't go off with the label.
Each plant pot has 2 white labels in, one with name of plant, which stays in the pot on purchase, the other label has price on, which gets taken out when plant sold.
When we get home the price labels should add up to what money we bring back, less of course the float of change.  ;D

As a matter of interest. When we open we have money floats for the gate, kitchen, and for each of the 2 sellers on the plant stall. We have a good idea now what denomination of coins/notes should be in each float. The total of the floats is £180  :o

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 15, 2009, 12:25:25 PM

Phil

On page 2 of this thread George wrote

Quote
Another couple of tips:

1)
The templates are designed for standard rectangular aspect ratios 3:4
If photos are not standard e.g. square, then they wont fill the allocated regions allocated for the printed image.
If they are 3:4 then they will be perfect.

2) The program is designed to maintain proportions.
Thus it wont stretch the photo out of its normal aspect ratio

3) Small images will be enlarged to fit
Large images will be squeezed into the region

4) The text always appears in the same location, irrespective of photo size

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 12:37:20 PM
Yes, Phil, as Malcolm has posted, the photos look best when 3:4 aspect ratio for that design.
However, other aspect ratios will also work, but you will get white areas, as in the sample you've posted.
No 4 in your set may be Landscape image. Try that one in the landscape template.

RE: Phil
Quote
the margin at the bottom of the page is way bigger than the top and side margins using a ruler
The dimensions are as per my design, to suit my Lexmark printer.
If you look at the dimensions of the non-printable area reported by members you'll see that the bottom dimension is larger in some cases.
Thus, Ive designed a solution to suit all, explaining the 15mm you've measured at bottom.

The only worry I see is the text for number 4 appearing below the box.
How did you manage that feat?

EDITED LATER: Phil, please check if you have a blank line of text in Photo No 3
That would cause the text to float below the bottom edge of the rectangle.

Is this happening to any other members output?
Mine is perfectly within the rectangle
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
You'll notice that a rectangle on your output
Thats the borders Ive worked to, hopefully to suit all the dimensions reported in the non-printable area topic.

Please let me know:
a)  if you DONT see all 4 sides of the rectangle, for both Lansdscape and portrait templates.
b) if you see output OUTSIDE of the rectangle

When all is working, I can remove that rectangle. However,it may be a good guideline for shearing.
What do you think?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
Malcolm
You have your stalls off to perfection. I am very impressed!
and Floats = 180. Thats a lot of cash to come up with!
I'd love to visit and see this in action and take those photos myself  :)
Maybe one day I'll surprise you  ;D
Meanwhile, thanks for the offer of the photos. Looking forward to seeing them.

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 15, 2009, 12:54:27 PM
Answers
1 I think it be best to play around with camera size pics and see what works best, in portrait and landscape printig setup and stick to that for all pics if possible, its just that i like any pics on a page to be the same size if at all possible the camera i have is a kodak c310 which does ahve differnt picture aspects 4.0mp down to 1.1mp the closest to 3.4 is 3.5 on my camera
2 text number 4 i have no idea how it managed to get below the box
3 i can see all 4 sides of the rectangle in both portrait and landscape so i think i am good there

personally i would keep the rectangle it comes in usefull for print preview purposes, seeing if any text is outside of it  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 01:08:53 PM
The 3:4 aspect ratio should not be confused with the mp sizes.
To see the ratio, use My computer or Windows explorer to look at the folder contents.
Hover over a file name (jpg)
A dialog box appears.
Look for what it says for Dimension
e.g. my pics show Dimension 1600 x 1200
Divide 1600 by 4, answer 400
Multiply 400 by 3, answer 1200
That tells me the aspect ration is 3:4

Just take photos and play with the program, Phil.
It really doesnt matter if they are all the same size anyway, as you are going to cut them up!
No worries there.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 15, 2009, 04:27:06 PM

George wrote

Quote
I'd love to visit and see this in action and take those photos myself 
Maybe one day I'll surprise you 

I will have to keep a look out for the Ryan Air flights that come in to Bournemouth from Dublin, depending on the direction of the wind, they either land or take off almost over us. The airport is about a mile and a quarter from us.  ;D  ;D

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 07:31:50 PM
Then I really willl surprise you, Malcolm. I would fly out of Belfast  ;)
No need for alarm though! I dont know if they fly to Bournemouth, but no doubt there are alternatives  :)

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 15, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
Quote
EDITED LATER: Phil, please check if you have a blank line of text in Photo No 3
That would cause the text to float below the bottom edge of the rectangle.

i have had a look and i can not see any blank line i have played around for about an hour with same pic in landscape and portrait and i can not get any text below your rectangle line now, i just dont know how it happened the first time  ???

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/passionflowerportrait.jpg)

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/passionflowerlandscape.jpg)

whilst on the subject of labels etc is it possible to do a picture with plant info at the side of it in portrait style useing GA049 i looked at 2 Photos-With Text but it does not seem to do it, trying to achieve the layout that you find on the bed labels in garden centers, 2 photos and text on 1 page

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s19/roiphil/IG%20Pro/label5.jpg)



Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 15, 2009, 10:07:32 PM
Its good the text is back in its design position, Phil.

The 4th template in the list does 2 photos with text, but all in line.
I can do the design youve shown Phil. Will do when I take a break from Bank Genie.

Note that the Labels program GA048 is for Garden Centre type labels with photos.
Toby and I have done extensive work on that but for US labels. Now its time for A4 stock.
We'll move to that program after weve finished with GA049, and do labels per request.
Have you tried the Labels program yet?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 16, 2009, 12:39:09 AM
Ive done that 2 photo template for you Phil.
Also 2 new templates for Toby and other US users, for Letter size paper (8.5 x 11 ins)

When installed, everyone should now see 10 templates.

Heres the download instructions again:

2 downloads required:
(1)
GA049
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA049-dl-exe
This should indicate Version 8 after installation

Reminder (before starting the next download):
Start GA200. Item 6 shows you the path to the Core data folder on your computer.

(2)
The new templates.
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/picpages-dl.exe
By default, this download installs 3 files in this folder:
c:\documents and settings\<user name>\local settings\temp\picpages
Open the folder and movbe the 3 files to the Core data folder (see above)

Alternatively (easier)
During installation, look for the option to Change the installation folder.
Change it to the Core data folder.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 16, 2009, 08:37:34 AM

Confirming the new downloads install ok.

Haven't tried them yet.

Thank you George

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 16, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
The 4th template in the list does 2 photos with text, but all in line.
Downloads installed successfully.

I've tested the new template - 2 Photos with text, both identical in size and text for each on the right hand side.
This works perfectly.

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 16, 2009, 09:13:52 AM
Thanks Laurie
I decided to do them when it was fresh in my mind. Also had to get Toby into the act   :)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 16, 2009, 12:49:41 PM
many thanks for new templates, i was not expecting that quick, downloaded all ok first time , (talked to my goats this morning as i was repairing the shed roof) did the 2 photos with text to the right perfect ideal for bed labels, thankyou very much
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 16, 2009, 01:13:24 PM
Thats better news this time Phil.
Those magic goats sure are effective  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: bossgard on May 17, 2009, 12:07:58 AM
George and others: HELP!

With GA049, I have installed version 8, but I am still with only 5 templates. My ignorance is showing in working with files and folders which I have had very limited experience. I made note of the Core Data Folder, etc., but am at a loss how to make the change to the installation folder. How do I do this and where do I find it? One step at a time, please.

Many, many Thanks!

- Toby

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 17, 2009, 12:39:09 AM
Its easy when you know how, but a real pain when you dont.
I hope I can help!

Step 1
Start GA200
Click into the text in Item 6 (Core data folder)
Click the Edit tab on the Menu
Click Select All
Click the Edit tab on the Menu again
Click Copy
That copies that data onto your clipboard. You dont see anything to confirm that. You just gotta believe.

Step 2
Now do this download:
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/picpages-dl.exe
Watch carefully during the download.
When the dialog box comes up
Quote
Location to save files
Where would you like to save your files
Click into the Save files in folder field
Do a Ctrl-A (Hold down Ctrl button and press A button)
That will highlight the entire line (make sure the entire line is highlighted - i.e. blue)
Do a Ctrl-V (Hold down Ctrl button and press V button)

That will paste the text on the clipboard into the field.
If its correct, click Next and continue with the installation.
If its not correct, do Step 1 again

You can also delete ALL the text in the Save files in folder field, then do the Paste step.
That way you'll see the text being pasted.

Let us know how that goes.

It was a lot easier for me to distribute these files when everyone was allowed to access their application data in a common folder, not under the user profile. This is Progress in computers?  :'(
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: bossgard on May 17, 2009, 03:44:28 AM
George:

YIPPEE!!!

Do I need to say more? Have all 10 templates.

Quite a few tries, but after 'pokin' and 'swearin', I made it! Have printed out both US Portrait and Landscape Four-Ons. Beautiful!! Thank You! You always come through for me and the rest of the Members!!

- Toby
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 17, 2009, 09:11:48 AM
RE:
Quote
Quite a few tries, but after 'pokin' and 'swearin', I made it!
So THAT'S why my ears were a-burnin'  ;D
Flooding back comes memories of computer out the window, developer out the window... Tee hee

Proud of you once again Toby!
Glad both the US templates worked for you.
Which of that range of printers did you use?
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: bossgard on May 17, 2009, 03:32:37 PM
For the print-out on those I used the Epson Stylus 400 (regular ink), an old printer left over from my business days, that I use for 'rough-draft' work when I want color. Saves wear and tear and ink on the Epson Stylus CX6000 (DuraBrite Ink).

Off on a hike soon this morning, but will try to work with the text features and see how they behave. Already, have a new project for you using the US Portrait (4-on), which I think will be interesting to try and useful for those that have their gardens open to the public or maybe selling a few plants.

Re: 'out the window', I was considering me this time. You were in the clear.

- Toby


Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 17, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
Phew! In the clear for once!

Give GA049 a go with your HEWLETT/PACKARD DESKJET 600 Toby.
It has the biggest value for Bottom.
You dont have to print it out onto paper.
If you do a preview and see all the text and all works then we can mark that off as job done.

Another project eh? OK - looking forward to hearing all about it.

Enjoy your hike  :)
(What a guy  ;D)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 17, 2009, 07:03:34 PM

We have had a fair bit of interest on this thread George.  ;D
And I don't think it is finished yet.

If we get to page 7 it will be the biggest thread ever on the forum, apart from Garden Funnies, unless you know different.

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 17, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
Its easy when you know how, but a real pain when you dont.
I hope I can help!

Step 1
Start GA200
Click into the text in Item 6 (Core data folder)
Click the Edit tab on the Menu
Click Select All
Click the Edit tab on the Menu again
Click Copy
That copies that data onto your clipboard. You dont see anything to confirm that. You just gotta believe.

Step 2
Now do this download:
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/picpages-dl.exe
Watch carefully during the download.
When the dialog box comes up
Quote
Location to save files
Where would you like to save your files
Click into the Save files in folder field
Do a Ctrl-A (Hold down Ctrl button and press A button)
That will highlight the entire line (make sure the entire line is highlighted - i.e. blue)
Do a Ctrl-V (Hold down Ctrl button and press V button)

That will paste the text on the clipboard into the field.
If its correct, click Next and continue with the installation.
If its not correct, do Step 1 again

You can also delete ALL the text in the Save files in folder field, then do the Paste step.
That way you'll see the text being pasted.

Let us know how that goes.

It was a lot easier for me to distribute these files when everyone was allowed to access their application data in a common folder, not under the user profile. This is Progress in computers?  :'(


Exactly what i had to do, but i went about it a bit differently, have you got vista toby
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 17, 2009, 08:44:30 PM
RE:
Quote
We have had a fair bit of interest on this thread George
Yes indeed. It looks like we will make Page 7 OK, and all in a very short period of time.
I'm really pleased it has generated so much interest. It was dormant as a program for a long time!
Its really good to find that our members can manage it so competently.

My next question. Are you folk OK with the structure of saving the pages within Projects?

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: roiphil on May 17, 2009, 09:14:20 PM
fine saving pages in projects my end i think, touch wood nothing has gone wrong so far anyway
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: bossgard on May 18, 2009, 04:00:29 AM
George - Yes, I would say that we are OK with the HP Deskjet 600 printer. I'm getting the bottom margin line

Phil - No, I'm not running Vista. When I had my computer built, Vista had not quite been introduced to the public, so Windows was installed. Microsoft did offer a discount certificate, and I purchased Vista when it was released. But on the advice of a learned computer scholar I held back on installing Vista since I was happy with Windows. I thought I would wait until the 'bugs' cleared up with Vista, but it is my understanding now that Microsoft will be introducing the new 'Windows' faily soon and also have a new Office Suite coming up. We will see how that whole thing comes together.

Hike - Went into the Greenwater area, which is in the foothills approaching Mt. Rainier. My hiking buddy wanted to check some of the free overnight camping sites, but it looks like there might not be any at all. A lot of that area is turning into private use with either lodges or personal residences. You are in a Federated Forest when it that area. He wanted to set up camp there along the river, and then go to the mountain to make the hike that we were snowed out of last year, come back, spend the night at camp and then in the morning do hiking in that area. But it looks like you can't even park along the road with out an annual permit that you have to purchase. There's a heavy fine and your car is ticketed for illegal use of the area, if you don't.

We did manage to do a little bit of hiking, but the snow was still on the ground, and got thicker the higher we went. There has been quite a bit of winter weather damage with fallen trees, dirt slides, etc.

- Toby

Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 18, 2009, 09:26:58 AM
That was disappointing for you about the camping and the parking, Toby.
Its a shame when such natural beauty becomes such a problem for the public to enjoy.
Hope you enjoyed your hike though.

Thanks for the feedback on the other computer. Thats good news.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: bossgard on May 19, 2009, 12:41:45 AM
Since Vista has been discussed in this Topic and elsewhere, I thought you might be interested. The following was published in this morning?s Seattle Times Newspaper, written by Briar Dudley, Technology Columnist.

Just a few  quotes:

?Early reviews of Windows 7 are glowing, but Microsoft?s new operating system won?t be available for at least three months.?

?Vista has improved since its debut in early 2007 and it?s working for 180 million people. But Windows 7 performs and looks better. It?s as if Vista went on summer vacation, lost its awkwardness and pimples, and came back elegant and poised.?

?If you?re comfortable with the process, you can start running Windows 7 today. A near final ?release candidate? version of the software is available free from Microsoft, but you?ll have to buy a full version after it expires in June.?

?Prices aren?t out yet, but it will probably cost around $200 for a new consumer version or less for an upgrade from Vista.?

?Flores (Microsoft?s Windows Marketing Director) said the new software is ?faster, more responsive, much easier to use, more refined, more reliable?.

(As I?m sure you?re aware, Microsoft headquarters is in Seattle, and the columnist probably has a direct line for info and publicity.)

- Toby
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 19, 2009, 12:49:49 AM
My colleague installed the beta version of Windows 7 on a computer in my day job.
Ive installed Bank Genie on it and it works as normal, so that was good to know  :).
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 24, 2009, 08:47:24 PM
Today we went to a local NGS open garden to sell some of our plants. As mentioned in another thread, we had several different Iris sibirica which did not have any buds or flowers on. They normally wouldn't sell for that reason. But they did have some of the pictures we made using GA049S01.

In total we took 66 various plants, and came back with just 12, none of those that came back were the Iris sibirica  ;D

Thank you George  :)

(http://www.lynandmalc.co.uk/testpics/DSCN5628a.JPG)

(http://www.lynandmalc.co.uk/testpics/DSCN5626a.JPG)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 25, 2009, 01:18:44 AM
Very VERY impressive Malcolm. I'm proud of you!
Thanks for your suggestion to develop that template. What a magnificent application.

Nice to see Lyn on the stand. Those plants are almost fully grown!
I wish I could make it to one of those events _ I'd gladly take a few of your hands!

Did Lyn take a photo of you Malcolm?  :)

I have to ask this once again. How on earth do you do  it?
How do you manage to propagate and store so many plants AND overwinter AND grow our own - and for a charitable cause
I think another gold star is in order  ;)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Eric Hardy on May 25, 2009, 08:17:17 AM
Today we went to a local NGS open garden to sell some of our plants.

I have been reading this thread from time to time but not having plants to sell (or any of quality to sell) I have no need of the template and have not contributed to the discussion. It is nice to see the way it works though. Great that you got your Iris siberica sold that way, Lynn & Malcolm. You had a good day for it too.

Eric H
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: NightHawk on May 25, 2009, 08:59:30 AM
............ I think another gold star is in order  ;)
As George suggested, here's another Gold Star Award for your recent venture.  :)

(http://www.pixiemouse.com/igforum/star2_dkbg.jpg)

Laurie.
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 25, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
Congatatulations Malcolm. Your endeavours have been duly recognised by the awards committe  ;D

RE: (Eric H)
Quote
but not having plants to sell I have no need of the template
What Malcolm has done is only one application Eric.
GA049 is for printing ANY type of photo, with your own text.
Being part of IG Pro, it allows you to select a plant, so a lot of info can be accessed "for free", as you've probably typed it in already in your database.
Similarly for Garden Area photos.
BUT, the program also allows you to select from folders, so you can pick any photos you like, from any device on your network, and print.
You can even print Family photos and photos of exquisite architecture ;)
Give it a go while its topical  :)
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Eric Hardy on May 25, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
What Malcolm has done is only one application Eric.
GA049 is for printing ANY type of photo, with your own text.
Being part of IG Pro, it allows you to select a plant, so a lot of info can be accessed "for free", as you've probably typed it in already in your database.
Similarly for Garden Area photos.
BUT, the program also allows you to select from folders, so you can pick any photos you like, from any device on your network, and print.
You can even print Family photos and photos of exquisite architecture ;)
Give it a go while its topical  :)

Thank you George, I obviously haven't been paying attention. I will have a go  :)

Eric H
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: ideasguy on May 25, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
You'll find plenty of help and encouragement as usual!
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 25, 2009, 11:12:30 PM

Laurie wrote

Quote
As George suggested, here's another Gold Star Award for your recent venture

Thank you Laurie and George  ;D

Malcolm
Title: Re: Uses for GA049S01
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on May 25, 2009, 11:41:16 PM

Gearge wrote

Quote
Nice to see Lyn on the stand. Those plants are almost fully grown

Yes that is the problem here, not enough room to keep them, but stupid to throw them away when we divide our plants in Autumn/Spring making these new ones. And they are reasonably priced George, The dearest on that table were £3.50 if I remember rightly, in 2 or 3 litre pots.

Quote
Did Lyn take a photo of you Malcolm?

I am afraid not, the gate was just opening as I remembered you had asked for some pics, took them in a hurry before the peeps invaded the stall, sorry.

Quote
I have to ask this once again. How on earth do you do  it?
How do you manage to propagate and store so many plants AND overwinter AND grow our own - and for a charitable cause

I did say today, as we were sorting our plants into some sort of order on our own plant stall here, and trying to find somewhere to put them all.
That we would have far more time to enjoy our garden, and other pursuits, if we didn't sell plants. But it is a big draw to visitors on open days. Whenever most people come through the gate, they head straight for the plant stall, buy some plants and leave them in our version of a plant creche, then look round the garden, then have tea/cake.

The charitable cause was us less 20% which we gave to the Hardy plant society, who we were supposed to be representing.

Just an aside.......we have names for the "structures" we put up at different times of the year, for instance in the winter for sheltering tender plants
The "Tardis" which encloses the bananas.
The "Giraffe house" for the very tall plants.
And an extension to our plant sales area on open days, which is just opening our double gates behind the plant stall, which leads onto the grass verge, and we put a temporary barrier across, and call it "The pig pen"

Hope our neighbours don't hear us.  ;D

Malcolm