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Plants => Plant ID questions => Topic started by: Palustris on January 03, 2009, 04:12:25 PM

Title: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 03, 2009, 04:12:25 PM
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No 1 Pictoee
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No 2
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No 3
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No 4 Allegro
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No 5
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No 6
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No 7
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No 8 Clematis Fireworks.
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No 9
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No 10 Hagley Hybrid

TIA.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: NightHawk on January 03, 2009, 05:54:26 PM
Some great photos there Eric.

Okay, I'm going out on a limb here and will chip in with some suggestions:

(#1), (#2) and (#4) - Poppy of some description  ::) (hmmm - obviously)

(#3) Lillium variety?

(#5) and (#6) - the same photo for some reason  ???

(#7) Lily?

(#8) (#9) and (#10) - Clematis types.  ::)  Not very helpful, but hopefully in the right area  :-\

Laurie.

P.S.  Looking forward to seeing many more photos from our other members this year - both of known plants and unknown varieties.  It's so nice to see what our members are growing and what thier favourites are.


Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 03, 2009, 08:41:59 PM
Whoops! Must have copied the wrong URL....again.

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No 6 (proper)

As I said right at the beginning, I know the Genus of most of these things, but it is the specific name which escapes me. For example 3 and 5 are both Bearded Iris, but no idea of the name.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on January 03, 2009, 10:06:43 PM

Eric

Picture 8 is probably Fireworks.

See here   http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=171

Malcolm

ps haven't given up on the others yet
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: ideasguy on January 03, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
Thanks for posting the new wave of unknown plants for us to have a go at plant ID detective work Eric :)
Ive broadcast the message. Hopefuly other members will join the "quiz"

If No 7 is Hemerocallis (Day Lily) , I hope you get a suggestion for its variety. I have one very much like that one in my garden, but it was given to me by a friend when I started gardening, and I dont know its name.
It has now hybridised with others and they are springing up in other parts of the garden.

Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 04, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
Thanks, yes Fireworks it is. We do have that one (amongst about 100 plus others!)  I will ad that name above.
7 could be either Hemerocallis or Lily. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on January 04, 2009, 09:55:58 AM

No 10 Hagley Hybrid

http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=196

Malcolm
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on January 04, 2009, 10:03:22 AM

No 9 more difficult, looks like the picture was taken with a low sun, is it white or creamy white?

Could be Gillian Blades or Guernsey Cream, do any of those ring a bell.

Malcolm
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: The Gardener on January 04, 2009, 10:49:20 AM
No 1 looks like Papaver 'Picotee', and No 4 looks like Papaver 'Allegro'.  Both are quite variable, and I could be totally wrong!  :-\  Happy New Year!
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: The Gardener on January 04, 2009, 10:55:23 AM
No 7 could be Hemerocallis 'Little Men'.  I have this, and it's quite small, only growing to around 12 - 18" tall.  It looks very like the one in your picture.  :D 
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 04, 2009, 11:08:18 AM
Have altered the ones I think are right.  ;D
Not sure about the white clematis. We have Gillian Blades,but not Guernsey Cream. As far as I can remember the flower colour is about right, white rather than cream.
Definitely not H. Little Men. Not one we have ever owned. Sorry.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Lyn and Malcolm on January 04, 2009, 11:32:23 AM

When you say

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Not one we have ever owned

Do you have a list, or is it from memory.

Malcolm
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 04, 2009, 12:48:52 PM
No proper list, but all the ones we have had came from either Bridgemere or Aulden Farm. Neither of them list this variety and from memory neither of us can remember purchasing it. That is not to say that we have not got it under a wrong name.  ;D
Had a quick search and cannot find it supplied in Britain either.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: ideasguy on January 05, 2009, 12:19:19 AM
Good work on the suggestions so far folk!
Its great to see you on the forum again Chrissie and I'm particularly interested in the one you identified as Papaver 'Picotee'.I bought two this year as young plants from Mr Fothergills
http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/
They didnt flower in Year 1, so I'm looking forward to seeing it in bloom. If its as nice as that in Erics photo I'll be well pleased.
Is that one still alive in your garden Eric?
Ive grown a number of Papaver orientale varieties and they come back reliably each year. The blooms are like big orange dinner plates!

We get to learn from all the suggestions, so it makes this type of topic particularly educational!
I like the details you gave on :
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Hemerocallis 'Little Men'.  I have this, and it's quite small, only growing to around 12 - 18" tall.
Thats a dainty little day lily - good for a spot with limited space.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 05, 2009, 09:20:05 AM
As far as I am aware, this being Janaury of the coldest period we have had for more than 10 years P.Picoteee is alive. Might take some findng though!
Added rider on the Hemerocallis front. What I should have said is that it was not ;isted in the RHS Plant Finder for any of the time we were buying Hemerocallis. We are no longer growing any of them and gradually our existing plants are being removed. They do not flower because of a massive attack by Hemerocallis gall mites.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: ideasguy on January 05, 2009, 09:49:23 AM
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They do not flower because of a massive attack by Hemerocallis gall mites.

Nasty! Good detective work on your part to find the problem. Is there no way of tackling that problem and saving your plants?
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: NightHawk on January 05, 2009, 10:00:23 AM
Never heard of gall mites before Eric.

We have some Hemerocallis in our front and back gardens.  What do the gall mites look like so we can check for them?

Laurie.
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: whis4ey on January 05, 2009, 12:41:58 PM
Guernsey Cream does not have the pointed petal of the picture shown
This is my own plant.  The colour does however fade rather quickly
Title: Re: More plants (No.5)
Post by: Palustris on January 05, 2009, 02:09:51 PM
Hemerocallis gall midges attack the flowers  mostly on the early ones. The flowers are mishapen and wrinkled when they open Typical description is that they are shaped like a tullip. If you open the flower bud and look closely you can see tiny (2 to 3 mm) little grubs inside. They drop to the floor as the flower opens and reside in the soil until the adults reinfest next years buds. No cure as far as I can find. All you can do is to remove every flower bud and burn! Then it seems a wate of time growing the plants in the first place.
http://www.rhs.org.uk/Learning/Research/Projects/Hemerocallis_gallmidge.htm
Trouble is we seem to be getting it in even some of theones mentioned here as being less suscweptible.