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Ideas Genie Pro => The Web Page Generator (WPG) section => Topic started by: Palustris on January 11, 2009, 03:35:06 PM
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Well lets get to it.
Started GA32 and it is definitely Version 39
Clicked on Reviews long button
Clicked Gardener's Check box.
Review Name Box goes blue, but nowhere can I see the Screen number GA100S37. The one at the top says GA32S01. Nor can I find any Gardener's Pop up.
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Humble Apologies Eric :-[
I left out a step in the instructions
In the email I sent, change it to:
Click the Reviews tab
There are 3 check boxes (upper right)
a) Gardeners
b) Suppliers
c) Others
Click the Gardeners check box
Click the WW button
Screen GA100S37 appears
Missing step in Blue
I' really sorry for wasting your time trying to figure that out.
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Right, helps no end.
Will get back to you as I go on from there.
Yes, well, just had an error message when I tried to add a photo of a plant from my Database and lost the lot!
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When you get an error message, you get a blank screen. I hope thats what you mean when you say youve lost the lot!
When you get that blank screen, the Menu Options (alongh top of the blank screen) are still active.
You can start and run any program from the menu.
However, its better to exit the system and restart.
Thus, Exit, then Restart Ideas Genie Pro, Eric.
When you Restart the program go to System Tab> Error Messages and that program will give you details of the error.
Let me know what it says.
Which program were you using?
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That is what I did and the stuff I had enetered was still there. Error says 'LOBMP is not an object'. I probably pressed the wrong button or something. My brain is suffering from the cold weather I reckon!
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Relieved to hear that!
I dont like to see System Errors like that. Its a bug. If you can repeat that event and can tell me what screen you were in and which button you hit, I can have a look and see what caused it, and hopefully fis it so it doesnt happen to others.
Any other information shown by the Errors program? (screen name would be useful - I can then do a search for LOBMP)
Send me an email if you need help on anything else.
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Found the reason. It is because my folder with pictures is on my D drive, but GA100S49 expects it to be on the C Drive. Told you it was my fault. Now can I change this expectation or do I have to transfer the folder to the C Drive?
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i think go to preferences and select GET FOLDER and find your D drive folder with you pics in, i woul wait for george to confirm first though ;)
Phil
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The get folder in preferences wont help unfortunately (good guess though)
I'll have to check tjhe program. Dont copy anything, Eric.
I'll make it work for your D drive, if thats the problem
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It is because my folder with pictures is on my D drive, but GA100S49 expects it to be on the C Drive.
Ive checked the program Eric, and the program will pick up the photo no matter which driive its on.
Ive done a test, by linking a plant to a photo on my D drive (a CD), then adding that plant to a review, then clicking the Web Pages button (Stage 5), clicking thumbnails and selecting the photo in the screen you mentioned GA100S49.
It worked for me, and I was able to generate a web page showing the image.
Try this as a test.
Copy a photo to hard disc
Link a plant to a that photo
Add the plant to the review
Try the Step 5 for that plant and photo
Does it work?
Important Question
On your computer, is D: a CD drive, or your hard disc?
Ive now documented the procedure I sent you by email yesterday.
Its now part of the Bonsai Genie User Guide, but it is exactly the same for IG Pro
Heres the link:
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/Bonsai/advanced1/advanced1.html
Look at both Advanced Lesson 1 and Lesson 2
Members:
Id appreciate a proof read over the Chapters and the Lessons in the Bonsai Genie User Guide
Some of Chapter 3 is Bonsai only, but the rest is OK for IG Pro
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D is a second hard drive.
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Thats OK (Good) then Eric.
I received your email and have replied so I hope that helps you along a bit.
Incidentally, I'm off line between 5 and 7:15 pm each work day (travelling home, then evening meal)
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Error says 'LOBMP is not an object'
We took this problem off line until today while I tried to get Eric up and running.
After MUCH trial and error by Eric, the report from Eric today is):
As far as I can see the System error occurs when one attempts to create a New thumbnail when there is already an existing thumbnail for that plant.
Have now done a Web site and it works. Only got as far as Alliums with plants in it mind, but hey you cannot have everything at once!
Ta muchly!
8)
I will investigate based on Erics findings and update this thread later.
That was one of the most difficult ones Ive had to support :'(
Not solved, but at least Eric is able to work around it.
Meawhile, congratulations Eric. Many would have given up in despair!
Shows gardeners are made of the right stuff ;)
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:)Well done Eric and George
What would we do without you George :)
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It was more well done Eric in this case. It took a bit of trial and error on his part to make some sense of why it was giving that error on his computer, when no one else was getting it (that I know of!).
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Don't jump for joy too soon I managed to get the same Systen Error last night and the picture was definitely not in the Thumbnails.
Still, to bypass this Error (probably caused by my machines set up as much as anything) I did the following.
1. Using which ever program you like change the size of the pictures you want to include in the IGWeb page to 640 by 480 pixels (I use FinepixViewer which came with the Fuji camera).
2. From GA32504 do Steps 1, 2 and 3. That creates a Folder in IGdata_sets/Web
3. Leave the IG program and navigate to the folder which you have just created.
4 Open the Folder containing the resized pictures and copy them to the Folder in Web.
5. When you are then in GA32504 and go to Step 5 Web pages, clicking on the Use an Existing thumbnail button brings up all the ones you have copied.
Hope this is correct G and does not compromise your program!
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That is perfectly acceptable, Eric. Thats why that option Use an Existing thumbnail is there in the program.
The resizer standardises the size of the photos so that they are uniform for all WPG projects, and look presentable in the web page.
Also makes them so no horizontal scrolling is required.
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So, now I have created a set of Web pages called August Garden Tour, I have a couple of questions. (or a dozen!)
They look ok to me, but how do I show them to you without publishing them? Do I need to?
How many pictures can I include. At the moment there are 48 pictures of the Garden, but I could add dozens more of plants one might see in the area of the garden being viewed.
Not sure either about Step 10, pointers silverplate? ;D
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You need to publish them Eric
Now you are ready to publish, I'll send you an email with Login details for the server, and instructions.
Once published, the whole world can see your WPG project.
To publish you need what is known as an FTP program.
Heres a very good one which is free:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/
Choose the option to download the Filezilla client
Today its at 3.2.0
Instructions to follow
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Downloaded FileZilla Client thing. Quite quickly too!
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Excellent
Ive sent you the instructions.
Fingers crossed!!
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So here it is thanks to George. I can see some mistakes but not bad for a beginner. No doubt I can learn next how to edit them out.
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/berghill/AGT/ is the link.
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Congratulations Eric, you did it. :)
Great
Malcolm
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I'm proud of you Eric.
It was a very frustrating week with that LoBmp problem, but you soldiered on and got there.
I was pleasantly surprised to see that you have published both Garden Photos and Plant Photos 8)
A little problem with the images at present (not showing fully).
Thats due to the errors you told me about when you were uploading. I had that in the early days with my web sites, before I got broadband.
They will be fine when you upload one at a time.
The important thing is that your WPG is absolutley fine.
I really like the presentation, and that tour of your garden. Now you will be able to talk us through it, with a little biit of text with each photo.
Its clear to see you are a very accomplished plantsman, and very experienced gardener.
Now youve reached the summit of that learning curve, it will be Downhill for Berghill from now on, eh :)
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Great effort Eric. 8)
It just goes to show what you can accomplish when you set your mind to it, and have the will to succeed.
Now you've joined the prestigious band of Genie WPG'ers. :D
Welcome aboard.
Laurie.
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A little problem with the images at present (not showing fully).
I thought it was Eric being artistic with his pictures.
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I think hes teasing us ::)
Its like episode 1 (partly revealed)
Be sure to tune in for episode 2 ;D
The photos and garden look great. I'm looking forward to Episode 2 ;)
Edited later to say:
This may give you an idea of the agony Eric is experiencing with dial up.
I had a look at the time stamp of the files he's uploaded.
The range is
18:07 to 18:59
Thats a long time to bite your nails!
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Tried again this morning, no go, still getting timed out. I have reduced the file sizes of the Images again (twice now) and I will try again. Bit worried about the quality if I go any further down. If this does not work then I will have to find a way to use a Braodband machine, I am not too happy about having to do that though.
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What size are the image files (jpg files) Eric?
The htm files are OK. They are very small and seem to be OK as is.
Concentrate on one jpg and see what happens.
If you are really stuck, put them on a CD and send it to me and I'll upload them for you.
Easier still.
They are probably on the CD you sent me (are they?)
If yes, I can make copies, resize and upload to your folder
Thats a good option.
JUST NOTICED:
You've succeeded with some of the photos (fully showing)
These are now OK
Intro, 1, 2, 3,4,5, and 8
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Cannot remember what was on the Disc I sent you with regards to Garden photos. You would need to look for a file called AugiustGardenTour (or similar).
I have reduced the files to between 75 kb and 105 kb and still it Times out.
I have changed all the Text in the HTML files so they need altering too.
Probably best to wipe the thing and start again and see what happens.
I can reduce the file sizes again, but not sure what effect that has on the resolution when displayed on the Web.
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Dont wipe anything Eric.
Ive sent you an email with alternatives.
I like your project as it stands. It would be a disappointment to give up on that.
I'll look for those photos.
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Ok. Have managed to update the HTML pages so that part of the site is correct.
Proceeding as suggested in the Emails. Oh what a doodah this is! :-[ ;D
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With a will theres a way, and we'll get there somehow!
The good news is I have all those photos on the CD you sent me.
I will resize and upload the ones youve published tomorrow.
What I need from you:
The Reviews program (GA032) is now at Version 40
I think you downloaded this already.
When you generate your web pages the program creates a log which contains details of the photos, the plant names and the URLs for each web page in the WPG project.
The log file is called pagelog2
I need you to go into the folder:
C:\igdata_sets\web\AGT
find three files
pagelog2.dbf
pagelog2.cdx
pagelog2.fpt
Please zip them up and email them to me. The zip file will be quite small and should be OK for your dial up.
That will give me a list of the photos I need to upload for you.
Hows that?
Malcolm has already worked with me to develop that tramsmission process, and we had to do it using the ZIP file (after a bit of hair loss both sides of the Irish sea).
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(after a bit of hair loss both sides of the Irish sea).
I have just washed mine, pleased to say there is plenty left.
How did the links for the Chiltern cat go George, it has been very quiet on that.
Malcolm
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Went very well Malcolm. Its going to be a success!
In the pagelog files (similar to the ones Ive requested from Eric) I was able to write a program to cross reference all the images in your HUGE WPG to the plants in the Master Database (step 1) then cross reference those to the Chiltern Catalog (step 2)
found the ones you pointed out, and some more, so its looking real good.
I'd hoped to get that finished this weekend, but I'm off the case just now.
I'm writing User Guide for Bonsai Genie (totally applicable to Ideas Genie Pro 5)
All IG Pro members:
Have a go at Chapter 4 (Events)
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/Bonsai/userguide4/userguide4.html
Im writing Chapter 5 (Tasks) and will be reviving the Winter Lessons Topic soon.
HAVE to get that Chiltern project finished ASAP and will update you and the others then.
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Oh dear, cannot find a Compression program to create .zip files on here. Used to have one on XP I am sure, but whehter it was bundled or downloaded I cannot remember. Still I sent the files as is, best I can do.
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That worked OK Eric.
Surprisingly it didn?t work when Malcolm sent me the same files.
Pagelog2 arrived corrupted and it only worked when he zipped them up.
That?s why I asked you to do the same.
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The photos from your CD resized and uploaded to the server.
Ive taken the Garden Tour and the photos are all there.
The process works, Eric. Now you can take a bow, tell all your friends and relax.
Sooo, Members, heres the Invitation to view (Erics "trademark") Heres the URL to email to friends:
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/berghill/AGT/
I have to say I really enjoyed the tour. Witht he photos on CD I tried to figure out the layout/design of your garden. It took me a while, but its much easier when you have those captions.
You can write more test if you wish. I'd love to know what the significant plants are in the photos.
No one has reported having completed Challenge No 3 here:
http://www.flowergenie.co.uk/ideas/forum/index.php/topic,761.0.html
If you can figure that out, you will have a really good understanding of the photos features of the system.
When you make any changed from now on, all you have to do is upload the htm files and tell me what (if any) additional images have been added to the WPG project.
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There should be an emoticon for clapping and blowing a kiss.
Cheers.
Challenge 3 will have to wait for a minute or two. I have been adding plants to the Data base all day so that I can do a Show plants Web page.
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Is that enough ;D
Malcolm
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Welll I'm :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
It was really easy.
Put CD with Erics photos in drive
Start IG Pro
Start Tools> Resize Photos GA051
Location for originals (CD)
Location for reduced folders (Make a new empty folder)
Max Height 640 Max Width 640
In resize options, Resize all
Wait for a minute - IG says job done.
Start FTP program and connect
Uploaded the images.
You're gonna weep Eric. It took about 1 minute
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Eric, that is beautiful! If I had just a tiny bit of your garden(s) in my yard I would be so thrilled!
- Toby
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Start FTP program and connect
Uploaded the images.
You're gonna weep Eric. It took about 1 minute
What you ain't had you don't miss!
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I need to know how to Edit pages within the uploaded files. I have noticed a mistake in one of the pages of the latest piece of nonsense. http://www.ideasforgardens.net/palustris/New_Paths_and_Alpine_Area/ on Page 9 and I am blowed if I can see how to change just that one page.
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Hi Eric
Ive had a look on the server, and I can see you are currently uploading data to that folder.
I'll look back later
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Sorry George I accidentally wiped the folder so I have had to Upload it again. The new version of Filezilla allows one to extend the time limit so it is not as much of a problem as it was before.
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Great job Eric. I'm impressed!!
I love those rocks - hard to explain to others who are not gardeners though!
You must have built up muscles like superman doing that job!
Yes, I can see it all now.
Have you fixed the text on the page now?
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Yes. For some reason even though I deleted the page with the mistake and uploaded the corrected version, the original was still the page which showed up on the Web. Very odd. Yet when I Uploaded the whole folder again (only took 40 minutes!) the corrected version is the one which appears.
Only someone who likes growing alpines would get excited about a load of old rocks!
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Have just discovered a fault. Page 42 is in the wrong place. It needs removing. How?
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Each page refers (with links) to the previous and next.
Thus, if a page needs removed, then its best if you upload the project again, Eric.
Individual pages with text only changes can be uploaded once you have all your pages published in order.
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Thanks!
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Done and dusted and seems ok now!
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Well done Eric. I'm delighted youve accomplished this challenge :)
The FTP process taking 40 mins must be a real pain :'(
Thank you for your perserverence.
What next ;D
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'Tis a question of wait and see!
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Not had to wait long.
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/palustris/Caerleon_2011/
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You have done a great job with the photography Eric, and also the wpg, all on your own too.
I have never heard of or seen about 90% of those plants, makes a good shop window for some of the rarer plats.
Malcolm
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Wow :o
Boy, you work real quick Eric :)
I am astounded, both by the speed of putting that WPG together, getting it uploaded and "figuring out" the URL of the home page to publish here on the forum. That is truly exceptional. I'm proud of you :D
I am also astounded by the quality of the photos, and for introducing me and other members to this range of stunning plants.
The Primulas I love as you know, but Ive discovered a new (to me) and exciting genus, going by the beauty of the mass of flowers on Dionysia Gnom.
Thank you ever so much for this excellent contribution and for using the WPG for this particular application.
You have made my day 8)
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Well, if I COULD grow Dionysia I would. But they are possibly the most difficult of all Primulaceae to grow. Those who can do and the rest of us just stand back and admire.
Next show is not until March 5th. so a little time to wait for the next instalment.
PS. There are dozens more Dionysia on the discs I sent to George.
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I hope to get back to all things gardening soon, Eric, and making good use of those photos :)
Gardeners love a challenge, but I will take your advice on Dionysia. It would be a pleasure to see them in reality.
March 5th? Enjoy the occasion Eric. Its great to have you giving us a pictorial report via the WPG websites. Keep up the good work ;)
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I do have sets of pictures like these from the few shows we went to last year. Do you think it would be a good/nice/interesting idea to make a set of pages from them? After all it is raining and blowing a gale and freezing cold and my back is very very painful. The computer chair is the most comfortable for me.
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Yes please Eric. That would be very much appreciated, I can assure you.
I look forward to the next issue!
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http://www.ideasforgardens.net/palustris/Pudsey_2010/
Now working on Southport 2010
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Excellent, Eric.
I'm working my way through the photos each time I have a little break (currently half time in the Arsenal -v- Barcelona match).
Its a real pleasure to explore.
Androsace spinulifera is a very interesting looking plant. Is it hardy outdoors in the right conditions in the UK?
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Now you are asking. I presume so, but it might not like winter wet.
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Southport done!
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/palustris/Southport/
If anyone spots any mistakes I would be happy to put them right.
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Another fantastic presentation :) Well done again Eric, and thank you for your valuable time in putting these projects together.
I wish I was able to take in a few of those shows. I'm sure they are a real treat :)
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We did go to Pershore and one in Wilmslow but did not get that many pictures worth showing so I will have to combine the 2.
We did go to L'borough this year too, but the lighting is so awful that taking pictures is just a waste of time.
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I'd keep them as separate WPG's Eric.
It would look better when I add them all to the home (index) page:
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/