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Offline Trevor Ellis

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Pause for thought
« on: December 22, 2009, 11:41:09 AM »
I was looking through old papers that I have and came across something that I've had for years and, especially given the recent events (non-events?) in Copenhagen, thought that some of our members might find interesting.
When I was working in Europe in the 1960's, I got to know a native American of the Shoshone tribe. His name was (transliterated) Honney Heeka (Johnny Wolf - translated). He taught me a little of his language, sign and spoken. Inevitably this introduced me to thinking/being that was quite new to me at the time (for instance once when I made a comment about what I thought to be a particularly beautiful evening sky, he said that he considered that to be a rather narcissistic thing to say since we are only a part of what I was commenting on) and certainly he had a great and lasting effect on my life. Unfortunately we lost contact (he was a draftee in the army at the time and 'vanished' overnight. I suspect to Vietnam) but I've never forgotten him. The following is a letter, nothing to do directly with Honney Heeka, but found as a result of my knowing him and enquiring more about our relationship to the earth and which I've read many times since. Many of our members may be very familiar with it but I thought that it might be thought provoking for anyone to read who is not and who is interested in the land, our use of it and relationship to it. Yes there are inconsistencies in the text, there has been and probably still is some doubt as to the absolute authenticity of the text also but the content seems to me to reflect the way of being that I saw in Honney Heeka.


    "In 1851 Seattle, chief of the Suquamish and other Indian tribes around Washington's Puget Sound, delivered what is considered to be one of the most beautiful and profound environmental statements ever made. The city of Seattle is named for the chief, whose speech was in response to a proposed treaty under which the Indians were persuaded to sell two million acres of land for $150,000." -- Buckminster Fuller in Critical Path.

Chief Seattle's Thoughts:

How can you buy or sell the sky, the warmth of the land? The idea is strange to us.

If we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the water, how can you buy them?

Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shining pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every clearing and humming insect is holy in the memory and experience of my people. The sap which courses through the trees carries the memories of the red man.

The white man's dead forget the country of their birth when they go to walk among the stars. Our dead never forget this beautiful earth, for it is the mother of the red man. We are part of the earth and it is part of us. The perfumed flowers are our sisters; the deer, the horse, the great eagle, these are our brothers. The rocky crests, the juices in the meadows, the body heat of the pony, and man --- all belong to the same family.

So, when the Great Chief in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our land, he asks much of us. The Great Chief sends word he will reserve us a place so that we can live comfortably to ourselves. He will be our father and we will be his children.

So, we will consider your offer to buy our land. But it will not be easy. For this land is sacred to us. This shining water that moves in the streams and rivers is not just water but the blood of our ancestors. If we sell you the land, you must remember that it is sacred, and you must teach your children that it is sacred and that each ghostly reflection in the clear water of the lakes tells of events and memories in the life of my people. The water's murmur is the voice of my father's father.

The rivers are our brothers, they quench our thirst. The rivers carry our canoes, and feed our children. If we sell you our land, you must remember, and teach your children, that the rivers are our brothers and yours, and you must henceforth give the rivers the kindness you would give any brother.

We know that the white man does not understand our ways. One portion of land is the same to him as the next, for he is a stranger who comes in the night and takes from the land whatever he needs. The earth is not his brother, but his enemy, and when he has conquered it, he moves on. He leaves his father's grave behind, and he does not care. He kidnaps the earth from his children, and he does not care. His father's grave, and his children's birthright are forgotten. He treats his mother, the earth, and his brother, the sky, as things to be bought, plundered, sold like sheep or bright beads. His appetite will devour the earth and leave behind only a desert.

I do not know. Our ways are different than your ways. The sight of your cities pains the eyes of the red man. There is no quiet place in the white man's cities. No place to hear the unfurling of leaves in spring or the rustle of the insect's wings. The clatter only seems to insult the ears. And what is there to life if a man cannot hear the lonely cry of the whippoorwill or the arguments of the frogs around the pond at night? I am a red man and do not understand. The Indian prefers the soft sound of the wind darting over the face of a pond and the smell of the wind itself, cleaned by a midday rain, or scented with pinon pine.

The air is precious to the red man for all things share the same breath, the beast, the tree, the man, they all share the same breath. The white man does not seem to notice the air he breathes. Like a man dying for many days he is numb to the stench. But if we sell you our land, you must remember that the air is precious to us, that the air shares its spirit with all the life it supports.

The wind that gave our grandfather his first breath also receives his last sigh. And if we sell you our land, you must keep it apart and sacred as a place where even the white man can go to taste the wind that is sweetened by the meadow's flowers.

So we will consider your offer to buy our land. If we decide to accept, I will make one condition - the white man must treat the beasts of this land as his brothers.

I am a savage and do not understand any other way. I have seen a thousand rotting buffaloes on the prairie, left by the white man who shot them from a passing train. I am a savage and do not understand how the smoking iron horse can be made more important than the buffalo that we kill only to stay alive.

What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, man would die from a great loneliness of the spirit. For whatever happens to the beasts, soon happens to man. All things are connected.

You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of our grandfathers. So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin. Teach your children that we have taught our children that the earth is our mother. Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of earth. If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves.

This we know; the earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth. This we know. All things are connected like the blood which unites one family. All things are connected.

Even the white man, whose God walks and talks with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We shall see. One thing we know which the white man may one day discover; our God is the same God.

You may think now that you own Him as you wish to own our land; but you cannot. He is the God of man, and His compassion is equal for the red man and the white. The earth is precious to Him, and to harm the earth is to heap contempt on its creator. The whites too shall pass; perhaps sooner than all other tribes. Contaminate your bed and you will one night suffocate in your own waste.

But in your perishing you will shine brightly fired by the strength of the God who brought you to this land and for some special purpose gave you dominion over this land and over the red man.

That destiny is a mystery to us, for we do not understand when the buffalo are all slaughtered, the wild horses are tamed, the secret corners of the forest heavy with the scent of many men and the view of the ripe hills blotted by talking wires.

Where is the thicket? Gone. Where is the eagle? Gone.

The end of living and the beginning of survival.
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Offline Eric Hardy

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Re: Pause for thought
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2009, 06:21:06 PM »
And very beautiful thoughts too, Trevor. Generally speaking modern man is not at one with this earth unfortunately. Anthea and I despaired at the lack of progress at Copenhagen  :(

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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 05:17:06 PM »
A very thought-provoking article there Trevor.

I wish that 'modern man' would be more considerate to our environment and give it more respect as highlighted in that article.  :(

Thank you for posting it.

Laurie.

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Re: Pause for thought
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 05:22:09 PM »
Trevor:

Your posting of the supposedly Chief Seattle?s Letter to (US) President Pierce of 1855 is very intriguing and deserves to be subject to more study. For those that might want to pursue it, you can research it further, by typing in: ?Chief Seattle?s letter? on the Internet.

Living as close as I do to the subject matter (an hour?s drive from Seattle, US-WA, Pacific Northwest ), I would like to do further posting to this Topic as we learn. My hiking buddy is an avid, local history buff, and also has Indian blood (non-local tribe) running through his veins. Let?s see what the two of us can discover together. Join in!

In the mean time:

The following text is on the last page, and is the last paragraph in a book entitled ?Plowman?s Folly?, written by Edward H. Faulkner. The book was copyrighted in 1943.

My father, an avid gardener of both vegetables and flowers (particularly of roses), obtained this book for himself, declaring that he must have a copy of it.

The book was copyrighted in 1943:

?If all the other benefits to be derived from a revitalized agricultural method could be dismissed, the one which would attract us still is the physical well-being of man himself. Foods are the sources of the vitamins, proteins, carbohydrates, and minerals by which man lives. He thrives or he fares ill in proportion to the availability of these essentials in the foods which are supplied him from farms and gardens of the land. Agronomists as well as nutritionists are aware that lands which have been exhausted of their essentials produce food stuffs which are deficient in the end-products required by human beings. It is not too much to expect that, by the restoration of the vital ingredients needed by our lands for the production of lush, vigorous, healthy crops, the vitality of man himself may be enormously enhanced, his deficiency diseases greatly reduced or eliminated, and his lift expectancy increased. This result, if no other were envisaged, would be adequate justification for a ?new? agriculture which is in realty very old.?

Are we making headway? I try to be as ?green? as I can be on my property; I make my own compost, mulch, etc. by recycling as much as I can, and then return it to the earth, where it came from in the first place! How about you?

- Toby


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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2009, 06:04:02 PM »
Are we making headway? I try to be as ‘green’ as I can be on my property; I make my own compost, mulch, etc. by recycling as much as I can, and then return it to the earth, where it came from in the first place! How about you?
- Toby
We're with you there Toby.  :)

Kathy and I are very environmentally friendly and recycle as much as we can, both in gardening and household matters.

What we do may not seem like a lot, but if we all did 'our bit' it would soon make a difference.  It's educating the next generation (and the current one) to take responsibility for our lives and not leave it to other people to do something.  There is just too much lethargy at the moment, with a selfish and 'couldn't-care-less' attitude being adopted, which has a very destructive outlook for our planet.

As individuals we don't live extremely long lives, so it's up to us to make our time on Earth as pleasant and sustainable (for us and future generations) as much as possible.

This could prove to be a very interesting and lively topic for discussion, so I would urge all our members to give as much input as possible.  Who knows, we might just be able to influence bigger and better changes to our environment.

Laurie.

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Re: Pause for thought
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2009, 09:11:15 PM »
Hi Toby

Yes, there are a number of versions of the letter and no one seems to know which is the original or if indeed any of them are. The one that I posted is claimed by some to have been written for a film script. Whatever the truth of the origins of the letter or which if any is the original version each contains many profound truths that are worth taking cognizance of and that's the important thing.

As for the so called 'green' issue, yes, some years ago I kept a small herd (18 or so) of Swiss Toggenberg goats, hens, bees, cats, dogs etc and they all contributed to the productivity of the garden. Everything that came on to the property had to have at least two or three contributing factors that I was aware of. I grew over a hundred varieties of herbs which provided all kinds of things including dietry supplement for the hens and goats, the goats provided milk for us and the cats and deep litter for the hens to scrat around in indoors in the wet weather (I only ever cleaned the hens out once a year and the shed always smelled fresh and clean - no ammonia stench whatsoever). They broke the hay and straw down into easily compostible material when combined with their droppings. The goats, in addition to their milk, provided the best balanced manure that you can get. I grew courgettes on the top of a well rotted goat manure heap (the roots penetrated some four feet or more into the manure) and they were the tastiest courgettes that I've ever eaten in my life. I lived at the end of an almost two mile long double avenue of lime trees at each side of the road (the longest avenue of limes in Europe) and the honey from those trees was delectable. The bees also of course pollinated everything in the garden from the fruit trees to the herbs and flowers and the garden sounded truly alive. Companion planting also played it's part as so the vegetable gardening in 'edged'  beds - a method which I seem to remember maybe in the 80's was hailed in the gardening magazines as the 'new' french method if I remember correctly. I'd been using the method for some years at that time after having seen it illustrated being used in medieval manuscripts so it wasn't so 'new'. As the Chief expressed, everything is related/interdependent. All it takes is a little thought and respect isn't it.

Trevor
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