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Rhododendrons at Sherwood, Exeter, England
« on: March 20, 2008, 05:01:38 PM »
Today is momentous. Ive just despatched Flower Genie and the Sherwood database to Sir John and his wife, Prudence.

Lady Prudence made contact way back in November and, when I asked how to address her, insisted on being called Prue in our correspondence!
David, her brother in law (Flower Genie user- 1st Vista customer- heartbreak), had related the wonders of Flower Genie (nice to see it being recommended!!) and she sent me an email telling me about Sherwood.

They have tree National Collections of plants: Magnolias, Berberis, and Knaphill Azaleas.

Prue explained that she was dabbling with the Demeter software, developed especially for the NCCPG for record keeping by Collection holders. She's had the luxury of a day of training with the software, something I'd love to offer for IG pro!!
I offered to have a look at her old database, in Lotus Approach (I'd never heard of that database) and see if I could convert it to FG/IG format.

4 months later, job done. I was working on a number of projects of course - not all dedicated time!! This was the fun time project.
I managed to convert the Lotus Approach database quite easily. Then I had a look at the data, and found 2708 plants!!
I asked the obvious question - are they all grown at Sherwood?
Yes, was the answer. Better still, there were images for many of the plants.
What more inspiration could a guy need. I set to work.

You may recall I did a quick web site to give you a glimpse of the garden Go to:
http://www.ideasforgardens.net
and look up Sherwood
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/Sherwood/Azaleas/

When you are there, look up Davids web site, Higher Knowle:
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/higher-knowle/

There are very few photos of Higher Knowle, but Prue has promised to take some, so I can do a better job on Davids web site.

Converting the Higher Knowle database was simple!!

However, converting the Sherwood database was was extremely tricky (more about that later)
The most difficult was the genus Rhododendron. Now, job done, at the click of an FG037 button, I can see there are 583 Rhododendrons in the database.
Type in Azaleas, click a button, and theres also 462 Azaleas.
Click through the list, and I see the photos (I linked them all, a few exceptions) - images of the most beautiful plants imaginable.
You probably know already, but the RHS dont have a Genus called Azalea. All Azaleas are listed as Rhododendrons, so theres close to 1000 Rhodos at Sherwood.

Thats dual name thing is only a minor confusion, considering the other "problems" I encountered when converting this database.
I have to say, I had absolutely NO idea the Genus was so complicated.
I told our own forum resident Rhododendron expert, JohnB about the project, and he did forewarn me!!

I'll explain the project in small steps in this thread, but first I'll use this opening message to post links to web sites I used during my extensive research in this project.

Heres a lovely one for you to read:
http://www.rhododendron.org/v50n2p95.htm

I worked to 2:00 am most night this week to get that package delivered before Easter. Tonight, I'll relax (huh!)

Thers MUCH MUCH More to be added to this message - revisit and start at the top each time. Go ahead and post replies of course.
In particular, let us all know if you know the gardens mentioned, or have visited them.

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Re: Rhododendrons at Sherwood, Exeter, England
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 04:53:35 PM »
Heres another fascinating web site - the American Rhododendron Society (abbrev as ARS):
http://www.rhododendron.org

"Our own" John Bullivant, our forum member, is the ARS Chapter President of Kitsap (Kitsap County Washington)

If you like a good read, have a look at the articles
http://www.rhododendron.org/articles.htm

This one came up while I was doing my research:
The Gardens of Exbury by Paul Martin, Head Gardener, Exbury Gardens, Southampton, England
http://www.rhododendron.org/v50n2p95.htm
Many of the plants mentioned are grown at Sherwood (hence, using the Google button, I got a hit to this web page)

Heres a moving story in this article by Peter Hutchison of Kippen, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Hunting the Plant Hunter: The Search for George Forrest's Grave
http://www.rhododendron.org/v53n1p8.htm

Exploring further heres an article titled Return to Gregory Bald by Donald W. Hyatt, McLean, Virginia
http://www.rhododendron.org/v52n3p122.htm
Don and I exchanged emails a few years ago (must try and make contact again) and he sent me photos, including photos of his garden and a photo of one of his introductions Rhododendron 'Yellow Cloud'. Its in the Master Database.

More to follow in future postings



« Last Edit: April 11, 2008, 04:56:30 PM by ideasguy »

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Re: Rhododendrons at Sherwood, Exeter, England
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 05:27:18 PM »
We've just had a cursory look at each of these links and there's an absolute wealth of information on Rhododendrons and how to grow them.

This is an absolute must to check out if you are interested in growing Rhododendrons in your own gardens.

As George has said, we have our very own Rhododendron expert in our midst, our forum member John Bullivant, who will be more than willing to give additional help and advice to potential growers.

Thank you to George for getting all these links for us to check out, and look out for more to follow.  8)

We also welcome input from any members who have had experience growing them and any problems/successes they've had.

Please let us know your first hand experiences.

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Re: Rhododendrons at Sherwood, Exeter, England
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 02:45:38 PM »
I enjoy researching the Sherwood plants. I think I'll write a book about Rhodos (Joke!!)

I'm adding some info in this posting as a "bookmark" for an article at some stage.
Some of the info is incomplete. If you know anything about the Gardens and Nurseries, please go ahead and post replies.


G Reuthe Ltd   
Supplied 28 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
Website: None ?       Contact C & P Tomlin
Address: Crown Point Nursery, Sevenoaks Road, Ightham, Nr Sevenoaks, Kent, TN15 0HB

Fortescue
Supplied 47 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
Website: None ?
Garden House Enterprises ?
DO NOT provide mail ordering.
Specialities: Fortescue and Buckland plants. South African plants.
Address The Garden House, Buckland Monachorum, Yelverton, Devon, England,

Exbury
Supplied 34 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
http://www.exbury.co.uk/exbury/index.htm
Paul Martin Head Gardener
Address:  Exbury Gardens, Southampton, England
Spring photos
http://www.exbury.co.uk/exbury/springpics.asp
http://www.exbury.co.uk/exbury/gardendiary.asp?diary=GARDENERS

Archbold                     
Supplied 11 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
Explorer??
http://www.vireya.net/gallery-spA.htm   -   Rhododendron archboldianum
Epithet - after Richard Archbold, American philanthropist and explorer who financed the expedition on which this plant was found.
Need to ask Prue

Ashburner
Supplied 3 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
Perhaps the same as the Betula Collection Holder, Ashburner, Mr K, Devon
Found on this web page
http://www.nccpg.com/Page52.Aspx?Area=Devon&Type=

Champernowne
Supplied 6 of the Rhodos/Azalea plants growing at Sherwood
Is this the one?
http://www.champernowne.co.uk/
Note the address is Green Lane Gardens, Buckland Monachorum
Buckland Monachorum was the garden of Lionel Fortescue (see Telegraph article below) yet the web site above doesnt mention this.

Finally (for today) heres a good read about Sherwood
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/main.jhtml?xml=/gardening/2003/11/08/gace08.xml
in particular:
Sir John and Lady Quicke have been gardening here since 1968. Lionel Fortescue was Sir John's tutor at Eton and it was his beautiful garden at Buckland Monachorum that was his original inspiration. Prue, Lady Quicke, is a painter and illustrator and has exerted a strong influence on the garden's design and colour.
and:
If you have room for only one Rhodo in your garden, Vaughan Gallavan (Head Gardener at Sherwood) suggests 'Whitethroat' for its ample double white flowers and magnificent rich-crimson autumn colour.


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